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Does Facebook have a right to monetise its users conversations?

Last post 26 Sep 2009 3:23 PM by andy parker. 26 replies.
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  • 18 Nov 2008 11:28 AM

    Does Facebook have a right to monetise its users conversations?

    The value of Facebook and other social media networks as advertising platforms has been called into question after P&G marketing chief, Ted McDonnell, said it was "arrogant" to monetise the popularity of these websites.

    Is McDonnell right? Or is he is out of step with the media habits of consumers today? Are his views shared by other large advertisers? Is McDonnell right to question the ethics behind advertisers who seek to engage with consumers on social media networks?

    Does Facebook have a right to monetise its users conversations?

     

    • Yes (34.8%)
    • No (21.7%)
    • It depends on how it is done, providing it is not intrusive or invades the privacy of users (43.5%)
    • Total Votes: 46
  • 18 Nov 2008 3:03 PM

    Re: Does Facebook have a right to monetise its users conversations?

    Social networking sites such as Facebook are providing a service to users. They allow us to communicate to people on the other side of the world instantly, and for free. 

    These sites must generate revenue to be able to continue providing that service. If the advertising is not too intrusive, then I think it is perfectly legitimate to have it on the site.

  • 18 Nov 2008 3:36 PM

    Re: Does Facebook have a right to monetise its users conversations?

    I think most users understand that nothing comes for free and either blatantly ignore advertising messages or - as is the case for sites like Flickr, I would rather pay a small fee to be rid of them (sample of one I grant you).  What’s worrying about Social networks is they don’t have much to do with the purchasing decision making as its ‘social’ so what value can they really play in this arena but I have seen some good ‘app’s’ from brand companies;  they have been creative and found a way to be part of that community on the right terms.  However, back to blatant monetisation... I worry because Social networks have a rich source of user information by the fact that these are ‘social networking sites’.  I don’t give them permission to mine data about me but they could and probably do to make themselves more appealing to advertisers to sell targeted ad’s?  Social networks just know so much more about me (I know Search companies can do the same) and ad’s is one thing, but the data these company gather and what they do with it can easily be one step away from ‘Big Brother knows-way to much about me’.  I know the information should be anonymous – but hey is it really?   Target ad's to make them ‘relevant’ and using behavioural targeting to achieve this is an interesting yet intruding aspect and I believe should have more scrutiny going forward.  Rant over!

     

  • 18 Nov 2008 5:20 PM

    Re: Does Facebook have a right to monetise its users conversations?

     I  think that the only way they should advertise on social site is by banner or logos advertising or similar. Not intruding into people's conversations!

    "Do the hard jobs in Marketing first, and the Marketing jobs will take care of themselvesCareers ." - Careers and Jobs UK
  • 18 Nov 2008 7:26 PM

    Re: Does Facebook have a right to monetise its users conversations?

    What kind of a person breaks up with their girlfriend via Facebook anyway?!

    I think this guy's a little out of touch...

    While I agree that brands need to be very careful about how they approach marketing on the social networking platforms, at the end of the day advertising is what keeps social networks free for the consumer, in a not too dissimilar way to how the search engines do it.

    james vanderzee cert digm, m idm
  • 19 Nov 2008 8:36 AM

    Re: Does Facebook have a right to monetise its users conversations?

     That is a good point.  I am sure that most people will prefer to use the sites for free even if it means some advertising.

    "Do the hard jobs in Marketing first, and the Marketing jobs will take care of themselvesCareers ." - Careers and Jobs UK
  • 19 Nov 2008 11:06 AM

    Re: Does Facebook have a right to monetise its users conversations?

    I think anyone that divulges lots of personal information to a commercial media owner and doesn't expect it to be used for advertising is being a bit naive. Clearly, a delicate balance needs to be struck between privacy and Facebook's need to generate a profit from what it offers people, but if you feel protective about your personal information you should opt out by not signing up. I don't mind advertisers targetting me. I get something back.

  • 19 Nov 2008 6:57 PM

    Re: Does Facebook have a right to monetise its users conversations?

     Farcebook has the 'right' to monetize yo ass - and any other part of you or your brain.

    I suggest you read the T&Cs very carefully ! ;-)
     

  • 20 Nov 2008 8:43 AM

    Re: Does Facebook have a right to monetise its users conversations?

    Of course they have the "right"; it's their web site to with as they wish. Will it lose them users? It didn't do MySpace any favours.
  • 20 Nov 2008 11:38 AM

    Re: Does Facebook have a right to monetise its users conversations?

    Farcebook really is web surveillance 2.0 - it exists only to draw information from it's user base - what they do with that information, and what they have the right to do with that info - is all in the T&C's.

    I think you even grant them the right to 'monitor' your communications using other applications - outside of farcebook.

    - Still if it allows me to post pictures of myself being very popular, silly & drunk - I think it's well worth the trade off :-D

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    - also AFAIK - they are very many millions away from break even point - so expect plenty of 'monetization' to come, and fair enough - because we all have granted them the right.
     

  • 20 Nov 2008 4:54 PM

    Re: Does Facebook have a right to monetise its users conversations?

     I never knew that as I did not really read the T&C's which I  am sure that not many people do :).

    I think if you are sensible you will try not to share any personal information on that site, and if you do so you will able to happily enjoy the benefits it offers :)

    "Do the hard jobs in Marketing first, and the Marketing jobs will take care of themselvesCareers ." - Careers and Jobs UK
  • 25 Nov 2008 9:59 AM

    Re: Does Facebook have a right to monetise its users conversations?

    Hell yes it does!!

    This is a service that I quite enjoy - as we grow up and move on, we can stay in touch with the people who helped to make us who we are. If the information that I choose to put on my profile is sold on, my bad! I should only post limited info if I am very concerned.

    As for placing ads on the network, having looked at the system, you don't really get intrusive on peoples conversations, they just use an AdCenter-type algo to identify keywords on your page that advertisers are bidding on - the same as PPC 'Content' network advertising - and serve you ads you may be interested in.

    Yes they have a lot of user information - so does any website that maintains a good database and investigates server logfiles / web stats correctly. It's not a given that they will use this to do a Pinky & the Brain act on us. I hope :p

     

     

     

  • 25 Nov 2008 10:05 AM

    Re: Does Facebook have a right to monetise its users conversations?

     One of thems a genius the other one's insane ! :-D

  • 25 Nov 2008 10:08 AM

    Re: Does Facebook have a right to monetise its users conversations?

    One of thems a genius the other one's insane ! :-D

    That's the idea I think... :~D

  • 25 Nov 2008 4:42 PM

    Re: Does Facebook have a right to monetise its users conversations?

    I agree, many companies you come accross, especially the ones where you have to register will keep your details.  As long as they don't misuse them it does not bother me too much.

     If Facebook could not advertise how else would they make money???

    "Do the hard jobs in Marketing first, and the Marketing jobs will take care of themselvesCareers ." - Careers and Jobs UK
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