Whither The Independent? Or, rather, wither The Independent if you are one of those who think the paper's circulation has fallen to terminally low levels, culminating in a recent September ABC result that was down 12% year on year.
Its average circulation in the period was 220,957, which included 38,560 bulks and 51,548 overseas sales. Four months into his new role, managing director Simon Kelner (profiled on page 10) has decided to cut the number of bulks and overseas copies, something he says is long overdue - there were about 7,000 fewer in September.
It is one of a number of changes Kelner has instigated since he took the managerial reins from Terry Grote, who retired in April. He has cut marketing spend, upped the cover price to £1 and restructured the management team, among other things.
Most of these moves made sense, and the newly redesigned full-colour paper is looking good. Kelner even admits that his mate and new Independent editor Roger Alton is producing a better paper than he did. The viewspaper front pages have quietly been consigned to history - again, not before time.
So far, so good then. But the improvements are a long way from being reflected in extra copy sales or ad revenues, although Kelner has taken over at a time when the economy is in meltdown, so he can use that as an excuse for a certain amount of grace.
The paper has established a distinct culture for itself in the UK. It has innovated in many areas and claims credit for inventing newspaper promotions such as posters, booklets and language courses, many of which have been copied by its rivals.
It would be a shame if it ceased to exist, but there is no room for sentiment in media businesses, especially in the current economic climate. Kelner cut back on marketing in September, but claims to have some new and innovative promotions in the pipeline.
A lot hangs on these. Kelner himself says The Indie can't afford another year of 12% circulation falls, so if we are sitting here in October 2009 contemplating just such an occurrence, it may well be that the paper will have withered just a little bit too much to survive.