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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://community.brandrepublic.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Please can you refute this argument.</title><link>http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/rory_sutherlands_blog/archive/2007/11/14/please-can-you-refute-this-argument.aspx</link><description>I have suddenly conceived the insane notion that brands are good for the environment. Can this possibly be true? It is now common to ask why property prices in Britain are so high. Another way of phrasing the question might be to ask why - at least from</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007 SP2 (Debug Build: 20611.960)</generator><item><title>re: Please can you refute this argument.</title><link>http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/rory_sutherlands_blog/archive/2007/11/14/please-can-you-refute-this-argument.aspx#51009</link><pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:44:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0f8ed6bf-041d-4f2c-bb76-9560b958a575:51009</guid><dc:creator>Jack Gardner</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The people are happy, they are the fat of the land&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In a proud country where chips are legal but guns are banned&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Isn't it paradise when you have the freedom choose&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;between the luxury goods, drugs, fags, chips or booze&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://thebasildonbloggerstrikesagain.com/"&gt;thebasildonbloggerstrikesagain.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.brandrepublic.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=51009" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Please can you refute this argument.</title><link>http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/rory_sutherlands_blog/archive/2007/11/14/please-can-you-refute-this-argument.aspx#50502</link><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:33:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0f8ed6bf-041d-4f2c-bb76-9560b958a575:50502</guid><dc:creator>Bob Ashwood</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The last comment on this blog was some time ago - Mar '09. However, given that Rory first posted it in Nov '07, it proves what a fascinating topic 'brand' is. And when you attach 'brand' to 'issues of conscience' like the environment, it tears us apart. Before marketing people ate, used and carried stuff around with them. Now we consume. Consider the word - CONSUME. Conspicuous isn't it. People spent money based on what I think is a motivational line with 'survival' at one end and 'reward' at the other. Depending on how much we have to spend we pick a point on that line that defines our behaviour. At the survival end of the scale we tend to eat rather than consume. From somewhere in the middle of the line right up to the 'reward end, we consume to increasing degree of conspicuousness. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.brandrepublic.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=50502" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Please can you refute this argument.</title><link>http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/rory_sutherlands_blog/archive/2007/11/14/please-can-you-refute-this-argument.aspx#40255</link><pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:32:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0f8ed6bf-041d-4f2c-bb76-9560b958a575:40255</guid><dc:creator>Brian Millar</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Anybody who's ever read the FT How To Spend It supplement will know there's some truth in this. Five thousand pound shoes, 100 thousand pound stereos and so on keep rich people's consumption volumes down.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What's good for the environment however may not be so good for the economy, as bankers competed to raise their bonuses so as to be able to afford the same size house in a better postcode, the same car from a better maker (Tuareg vs Cayenne anyone?), Butlins holidays at Bedruthan Steps, studio quality speakers to play low-fi MP3s on, etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The alpha mentality this caused also appears to have sunk Iceland, Ireland and Eastern Europe and generally knacked us all for a couple of years. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How To Spend It is a wonderful lesson in the law of diminishing returns.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.brandrepublic.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=40255" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Please can you refute this argument.</title><link>http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/rory_sutherlands_blog/archive/2007/11/14/please-can-you-refute-this-argument.aspx#37747</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:12:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0f8ed6bf-041d-4f2c-bb76-9560b958a575:37747</guid><dc:creator>Mark Smith</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;And let's not forget the green lobby is a very lucrative business for many people, quangos and governments.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.brandrepublic.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=37747" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Please can you refute this argument.</title><link>http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/rory_sutherlands_blog/archive/2007/11/14/please-can-you-refute-this-argument.aspx#37746</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:12:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0f8ed6bf-041d-4f2c-bb76-9560b958a575:37746</guid><dc:creator>Mark Smith</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;And let's not forget the green lobby is a very lucrative business for many people, quangos and governments.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.brandrepublic.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=37746" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Please can you refute this argument.</title><link>http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/rory_sutherlands_blog/archive/2007/11/14/please-can-you-refute-this-argument.aspx#37745</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:12:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0f8ed6bf-041d-4f2c-bb76-9560b958a575:37745</guid><dc:creator>Mark Smith</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;And let's not forget the green lobby is a very lucrative business for many people, quangos and governments.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.brandrepublic.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=37745" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Please can you refute this argument.</title><link>http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/rory_sutherlands_blog/archive/2007/11/14/please-can-you-refute-this-argument.aspx#37744</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:12:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0f8ed6bf-041d-4f2c-bb76-9560b958a575:37744</guid><dc:creator>Mark Smith</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;And let's not forget the green lobby is a very lucrative business for many people, quangos and governments.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.brandrepublic.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=37744" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Please can you refute this argument.</title><link>http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/rory_sutherlands_blog/archive/2007/11/14/please-can-you-refute-this-argument.aspx#37743</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:12:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0f8ed6bf-041d-4f2c-bb76-9560b958a575:37743</guid><dc:creator>Mark Smith</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;And let's not forget the green lobby is a very lucrative business for many people, quangos and governments.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.brandrepublic.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=37743" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Please can you refute this argument.</title><link>http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/rory_sutherlands_blog/archive/2007/11/14/please-can-you-refute-this-argument.aspx#37742</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:12:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0f8ed6bf-041d-4f2c-bb76-9560b958a575:37742</guid><dc:creator>Mark Smith</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;And let's not forget the green lobby is a very lucrative business for many people, quangos and governments.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.brandrepublic.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=37742" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Please can you refute this argument.</title><link>http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/rory_sutherlands_blog/archive/2007/11/14/please-can-you-refute-this-argument.aspx#37741</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:05:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0f8ed6bf-041d-4f2c-bb76-9560b958a575:37741</guid><dc:creator>Mark Smith</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;And let's not forget the green lobby is a very lucrative business for many people, quangos and governments.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.brandrepublic.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=37741" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Please can you refute this argument.</title><link>http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/rory_sutherlands_blog/archive/2007/11/14/please-can-you-refute-this-argument.aspx#37740</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:04:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0f8ed6bf-041d-4f2c-bb76-9560b958a575:37740</guid><dc:creator>Mark Smith</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Without the wealth created by brands, there would no money to save the environment. A paradoxical truth in life.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.brandrepublic.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=37740" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Please can you refute this argument.</title><link>http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/rory_sutherlands_blog/archive/2007/11/14/please-can-you-refute-this-argument.aspx#37119</link><pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:23:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0f8ed6bf-041d-4f2c-bb76-9560b958a575:37119</guid><dc:creator>Anil Kapoor</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I wish I had &amp;#163;190 to spend on sunglasses and besides aren't we just funding some body elses carbon footprint. Its not the little graphic designer guy like me who driving around a massive 4x4 in an urban enviroment where the most chance of getting the wheels muddy is driving past the local common.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.brandrepublic.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=37119" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Please can you refute this argument.</title><link>http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/rory_sutherlands_blog/archive/2007/11/14/please-can-you-refute-this-argument.aspx#37118</link><pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:23:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0f8ed6bf-041d-4f2c-bb76-9560b958a575:37118</guid><dc:creator>Anil Kapoor</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I wish I had &amp;#163;190 to spend on sunglasses and besides aren't we just funding some body elses carbon footprint. Its not the little graphic designer guy like me who driving around a massive 4x4 in an urban enviroment where the most chance of getting the wheels muddy is driving past the local common.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.brandrepublic.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=37118" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Please can you refute this argument.</title><link>http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/rory_sutherlands_blog/archive/2007/11/14/please-can-you-refute-this-argument.aspx#37117</link><pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:21:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0f8ed6bf-041d-4f2c-bb76-9560b958a575:37117</guid><dc:creator>Anil Kapoor</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I wish I had &amp;#163;190 to spend on sunglasses and besides aren't we just funding some body elses carbon footprint. Its not the little graphic designer guy like me who driving around a massive 4x4 in an urban enviroment where the most chance of getting the wheels muddy is driving past the local common.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://community.brandrepublic.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=37117" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: Please can you refute this argument.</title><link>http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/rory_sutherlands_blog/archive/2007/11/14/please-can-you-refute-this-argument.aspx#37116</link><pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:20:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">0f8ed6bf-041d-4f2c-bb76-9560b958a575:37116</guid><dc:creator>Anil Kapoor</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Surely any environmental benefit derived from brands is more than cancelled out by the sheer volume of hot air spouted everyday by Marketing professionals (myself included)?!? ;)&lt;/p&gt;
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